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Surely there’s a limit as to just how much crap Uncle Sam is willing to put up with from these two?
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Wolfman wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:59 pm Surely there’s a limit as to just how much crap Uncle Sam is willing to put up with from these two?
Unless they commit violence or clearly incite same, I think it's better to let them run free and keep an eye on them.
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They are well-known for walking right up to, but not crossing, that line.

So far.

(As I am a target of litigation by one of their clients both personally and in my former official persona as CC of the 306th Cyber Operations Wing, that's all I can say for the nonce.)

(Note: we need a better name than "Cyber Operations Wing," as it leads to a rather unfortunate acronym, particularly if you are in El Forko Grande.)
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Poohbah wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 4:28 am
Lordroel wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:57 am So a private owned a MiG 23 Russian Fighter jet crashes during Thunder Over Michigan air show at Willow Run Airport, the two pilots ejected from the MiG-23UB fighter.

So my question is, how good are these private Migs maintained, do they get supply from Ukarine, the Russian Republic ore the Far Eastern Republic and how does the United States government look to private individuals owning Migs type plane like the 23.

(OOC: true event)
1. It depends.
2. Yes.
3. The FAA, if they could have their way, would ban the -23. As they cannot do so, they use their backup plan, "drink heavily."
Any idea why they can't yank the airworthiness certificate.

I have heard of various companies that refit old Warsaw Pack birds with western engines and avionics.
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jemhouston wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:13 pm
Poohbah wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 4:28 am
Lordroel wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:57 am So a private owned a MiG 23 Russian Fighter jet crashes during Thunder Over Michigan air show at Willow Run Airport, the two pilots ejected from the MiG-23UB fighter.

So my question is, how good are these private Migs maintained, do they get supply from Ukarine, the Russian Republic ore the Far Eastern Republic and how does the United States government look to private individuals owning Migs type plane like the 23.

(OOC: true event)
1. It depends.
2. Yes.
3. The FAA, if they could have their way, would ban the -23. As they cannot do so, they use their backup plan, "drink heavily."
Any idea why they can't yank the airworthiness certificate.

I have heard of various companies that refit old Warsaw Pack birds with western engines and avionics.
There's no type certification for the Flogger, you'd have to revoke every individual cert issued, and there's an appeals process.
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Poohbah wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:10 pm They are well-known for walking right up to, but not crossing, that line.

So far.

(As I am a target of litigation by one of their clients both personally and in my former official persona as CC of the 306th Cyber Operations Wing, that's all I can say for the nonce.)

(Note: we need a better name than "Cyber Operations Wing," as it leads to a rather unfortunate acronym, particularly if you are in El Forko Grande.)
Better COW than Bull.

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jemhouston wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:19 pm
Poohbah wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:10 pm They are well-known for walking right up to, but not crossing, that line.

So far.

(As I am a target of litigation by one of their clients both personally and in my former official persona as CC of the 306th Cyber Operations Wing, that's all I can say for the nonce.)

(Note: we need a better name than "Cyber Operations Wing," as it leads to a rather unfortunate acronym, particularly if you are in El Forko Grande.)
Better COW than Bull.

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If they deploy any of the Cyber Operations Wings, we can make snarky jokes about waiting until the COWs come home...
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Good Lord, Poohbah… you have the ability to make just about anything a dirty joke…
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Well, the usual idiots were protesting at the main gate at Warren this morning.

First move: epoxy themselves to the pavement.

Second move: wait for my 260Z 2+2 to show up and throw eggs at it to ruin the paint.

That was the plan. Unfortunately, I was already in before they showed up, and the first guy to hit the main gate was running Klipsch Heresy speakers in the bed of his truck

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I feel sorry for security.
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jemhouston wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:26 pm I feel sorry for security.
Only in the summer. Having to suit up to use the ACME “extremely carcinogenic”(TM)(patent pending) solvent to dissolve the epoxy is a bit hard, but makes a good MOPP4 drill.
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Hopefully the idiots will catch something completely and utterly dreadful (not to mention completely and utterly fatal) from it…
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I dunno. You think they would have learned from the CSPs at Mountain Home playing "Move Bitch" by Ludacris on the LRAD...
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Wolfman wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:53 pm Hopefully the idiots will catch something completely and utterly dreadful (not to mention completely and utterly fatal) from it…
People complained after the norovirus incident. Something about it being so clean and disinfected that even the prions were unfolded.
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Johnnie Lyle wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:26 pm
jemhouston wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:26 pm I feel sorry for security.
Only in the summer. Having to suit up to use the ACME “extremely carcinogenic”(TM)(patent pending) solvent to dissolve the epoxy is a bit hard, but makes a good MOPP4 drill.
There is only so much stupidity people can put up with.
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jemhouston wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:58 am
Johnnie Lyle wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:26 pm
jemhouston wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:26 pm I feel sorry for security.
Only in the summer. Having to suit up to use the ACME “extremely carcinogenic”(TM)(patent pending) solvent to dissolve the epoxy is a bit hard, but makes a good MOPP4 drill.
There is only so much stupidity people can put up with.
On the flip side, spite is a great motivator.
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jemhouston wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:09 pm
Wolfman wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:59 pm Surely there’s a limit as to just how much crap Uncle Sam is willing to put up with from these two?
Unless they commit violence or clearly incite same, I think it's better to let them run free and keep an eye on them.
Concur.

The fact that they are lawyers means they know full where where the line is, and how far they can go before they cross it.
The difference between diplomacy and war is this: Diplomacy is the art of telling someone to go to hell so elegantly that they pack for the trip.
War is bringing hell down on that someone.
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Matt Wiser wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:14 am
jemhouston wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:09 pm
Wolfman wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:59 pm Surely there’s a limit as to just how much crap Uncle Sam is willing to put up with from these two?
Unless they commit violence or clearly incite same, I think it's better to let them run free and keep an eye on them.
Concur.

The fact that they are lawyers means they know full where where the line is, and how far they can go before they cross it.
They better keep up on their continuing education since the line has been known to move.
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That would probably explain how they've managed to stay out of the attention of both State and Federal Grand Juries.
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War is bringing hell down on that someone.
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They've been sued in civil court a few times. Don't know much more than that due to NDAs.
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