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....Welp, we get this in January:



At the end of Picard S3 - which had its faults, many and manifold, but still pulled it out in the end - we were teased with Captain Seven, Jack Crusher, and Raffi taking 1701-G out to Boldly Go. The fan community was utterly ecstatic, the performers were all willing to do it, and it looked for a while like we might get it.

Trouble is, that Paramount has wanted to do Starfleet 90210 for literal decades, and somebody decided that by God and the Great Bird Of The Galaxy they were going to do it this time, whether we wanted it or not.

I was dubious about Disco, but I stayed with it. It could have been much better, and that three-millenium hiccup was a textbook example of lazy writing - but it could have been much worse and was able to end pretty coherently. But this....no. Just no.

Gentlemen, we're going to have to do something about this.....(Pulls out TLS).


Mike


PS - Had I been writing Disco, the last ep would have gotten them put on trial by Q for something, and then the crew deciding that Disco and all aboard would have to be sacrificed for the greater good. Q is impressed, and he sends them home....to just AFTER the end of Picard S3.

Don't watch it

MikeKozlowski wrote: ↑Sun Dec 07, 2025 12:25 pm ....Welp, we get this in January:



At the end of Picard S3 - which had its faults, many and manifold, but still pulled it out in the end - we were teased with Captain Seven, Jack Crusher, and Raffi taking 1701-G out to Boldly Go. The fan community was utterly ecstatic, the performers were all willing to do it, and it looked for a while like we might get it.

Trouble is, that Paramount has wanted to do Starfleet 90210 for literal decades, and somebody decided that by God and the Great Bird Of The Galaxy they were going to do it this time, whether we wanted it or not.

I was dubious about Disco, but I stayed with it. It could have been much better, and that three-millenium hiccup was a textbook example of lazy writing - but it could have been much worse and was able to end pretty coherently. But this....no. Just no.

Gentlemen, we're going to have to do something about this.....(Pulls out TLS).


Mike


PS - Had I been writing Disco, the last ep would have gotten them put on trial by Q for something, and then the crew deciding that Disco and all aboard would have to be sacrificed for the greater good. Q is impressed, and he sends them home....to just AFTER the end of Picard S3.

DISCO jumping off to the distant future may have been the best thing for it, because the writers don’t seem to have been very comfortable working with fifty years of universe fleshed out across five TV series, ten movies, hundreds of novels and all kinds of source material. The only bit of IP they got right was Anson Mount’s Pike and Ethan Peck’s Spock. Everything else was a hindrance.

Which is strange, because the SNW team are REALLY good with Pike, Uhura, Spock and Kirk. Chapel is the only off note, and only because Majel Barrett’s Chapel was so limited a role. Even when it’s bad, it’s bad in the Star Trek tradition. Same with Lower Decks, which is an irreverent paeon of love for both the franchise and many of the California cities that are commemorated by the California-class ships.

Picard S3 had continuity issues, but it delivered some absolute tops for the franchise. I very much would have enjoyed Star Trek: Legacy, and perhaps the most glorious aspect was the last few moments of S3: where Jack Crusher Picard meets Q. For all his phenomenal capacity for mischief, it’s clear that Q is both fond of humanity in general and Jean-Luc Picard in specific, and in his own inimitable way puts his hands on the scale for us.

As I said when Picard Season 1 came out, 2399-2401 are years where Starfleet is experiencing dark days, but is an organization where I want to put the uniform on, charge my phaser and be about redemption.

I want Star Trek Academy to succeed. It’s got top notch talent: Holly Hunter, Paul Giammati and Gina Yashere are phenomenal. I also love some of the stills that came out, even if I am insanely jealous of colleagues who ended up in Star Fleet when I didn’t, except in the Mikeyverse.

But I fear it’s going to be exactly as you say. At least, if it bombs, they can pull a page from Midsomer Murders and write it off as The Doctor writing a holonovel under a pseudonym.

And yes, get back to the Mikeyverse!

MikeKozlowski wrote: ↑Sun Dec 07, 2025 12:25 pm ....Welp, we get this in January:



At the end of Picard S3 - which had its faults, many and manifold, but still pulled it out in the end - we were teased with Captain Seven, Jack Crusher, and Raffi taking 1701-G out to Boldly Go. The fan community was utterly ecstatic, the performers were all willing to do it, and it looked for a while like we might get it.

Trouble is, that Paramount has wanted to do Starfleet 90210 for literal decades, and somebody decided that by God and the Great Bird Of The Galaxy they were going to do it this time, whether we wanted it or not.

I was dubious about Disco, but I stayed with it. It could have been much better, and that three-millenium hiccup was a textbook example of lazy writing - but it could have been much worse and was able to end pretty coherently. But this....no. Just no.

Gentlemen, we're going to have to do something about this.....(Pulls out TLS).


Mike


PS - Had I been writing Disco, the last ep would have gotten them put on trial by Q for something, and then the crew deciding that Disco and all aboard would have to be sacrificed for the greater good. Q is impressed, and he sends them home....to just AFTER the end of Picard S3.

We have a <really good> desktop game which should serve as the backdrop for this show… and it could work, too.

Ok... Here's my take on the publicity shot.....


So the Klingon is holding hands with someone and has a smile on his face.

There is NO WAY he's not planning on pulling her arm off and beating the rest of them with it.

Belushi TD

Belushi TD wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 3:18 pm Ok... Here's my take on the publicity shot.....


So the Klingon is holding hands with someone and has a smile on his face.

There is NO WAY he's not planning on pulling her arm off and beating the rest of them with it.

Belushi TD

They may be on Risa… in which case he may be… seeking Jamaharon.

Looking at that photo, I wonder how they'll be meeting their diversity quota. They do have a Klingon, but that's also like bringing a gun-owning white rural Republican to a party. The rest seem fairly bland.

Critical Drinker has already weighed in…

https://youtu.be/QsZMCgSUy0s?si=x6eG-kLWXgiLpZAE

Craiglxviii wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 8:19 pm Critical Drinker has already weighed in…

https://youtu.be/QsZMCgSUy0s?si=x6eG-kLWXgiLpZAE

I really wish Critical Drinker would blunter in his opinions.

Best to wait until it’s actually been on until we judge it? I have seen the teaser clip & it looked okay. ST:A does also confirm what ranks our favourite characters reached. Mariner didn’t make captain for example and topped out as a commander.

It could work. I did like parts of lower decks and some episodes of Strange New Worlds. Those who stuck with Picard finaily got a decent final season. And in fairness TNG needed a lot of episodes before it got good. But if it works I suspect it wont be very much like "real" Star Trek. We'll see.

jemhouston wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:39 pm

Craiglxviii wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 8:19 pm Critical Drinker has already weighed in…

https://youtu.be/QsZMCgSUy0s?si=x6eG-kLWXgiLpZAE

I really wish Critical Drinker would blunter in his opinions.

I quoted him today in work: “… Naaah, it’ll be fine!”

Bernard Woolley wrote: ↑Thu Dec 11, 2025 11:07 am Best to wait until it’s actually been on until we judge it? I have seen the teaser clip & it looked okay. ST:A does also confirm what ranks our favourite characters reached. Mariner didn’t make captain for example and topped out as a commander.

Yes, we should wait for more than a few teaser clips to make judgements. But it’s reasonable to look at the teasers and trailer bits released thus far and be disappointed.

The teaser clip is frankly filler. Not good, not bad, but definitely not compelling. The longer trailer out is equally concerning, since it looks like they’re going with the tired old trophe of orphan with tragic backstory as the A plot.

So yes, I very much would like to be proven wrong, but I think it’s reasonable to be concerned about the creative choices we have seen, and worry that what comes out will be less than we hoped.

I'm going to say something as a military veteran, as a science fiction fan, and as a Star Trek fan:

Stories about basic training are going to be one of the following:

1. About as interesting as watching paint dry;
2. Utter shite;
3. Both.

Training is dull for anyone not actually going through it. The Camp Arthur Curry scenes in Starship Troopers are a slog for me. Heinlein (PBUH) kept it grounded, and it's the boring part of the book. ZEven The Grandmaster Himself could only do so much.

ST:A is going to have to go for Option 2 and hope they don't land on 3, which is the most likely outcome.

If you want to do a story of this type in a military/paramilitary setting, Episode 1, Scene 1 is the main characters getting their orders to USS (INSERT FAVORITE AIRCRAFT CARRIER NAME HERE), for duty with ship's company, and they end up in deck division (or the Starfleet equivalent thereof). It's their first time where the answers aren't about passing the exam, they're about bringing your people home alive, where leadership isn't a classroom lecture and a laboratory module, it's about getting real world stuff done with people, and where the personal crises aren't about whether that hot babe/dude in Fifth Company likes you, they're about "What the f*** are we doing out here?"