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About an old photograph

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:33 pm
by Micael
This daguerrotype popped up in my feed, it’s the oldest known photograph of a Swede, taken in 1841.
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The subject is as of yet unknown, but based on the uniform he has been narrowed down to have been a major of either the Svea Lifeguards in Stockholm or of the Royal Life Grenadier Regiment in Linköping. I believe the former would be more likely since I suspect that access to a photographer at all in this nascent era of photography would more probably have occured in Stockholm than in a smaller city.

But what makes me find this interesting in particular is the somewhat unruly appearance of his hair. Not unlike mine on a bad day to be honest. It’s peculiar to me that an officer would pose for a photograph with the hair like that though, back then. But then again I admit to not knowing a whole lot about officer fashion in the 1840’s. Does anyone know if this was a thing in general in Europe at the time? That is to say having a bit of a ”wild” look to the hair?

Re: About an old photograph

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 6:16 pm
by jemhouston
Don't know about the style, but he does remind me of

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John Wilkes Booth

Re: About an old photograph

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 7:52 pm
by Micael
jemhouston wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 6:16 pm Don't know about the style, but he does remind me of

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John Wilkes Booth
Yeah there is a bit of resemblance there.

Re: About an old photograph

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:43 pm
by Nathan45
Booth was a bit of a ladies man. Maybe women liked that unkempt look at the time.

Re: About an old photograph

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 11:02 am
by Micael
Nathan45 wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:43 pm Booth was a bit of a ladies man. Maybe women liked that unkempt look at the time.
Yeah I suppose that could be it, always got something to do with women. :P

Re: About an old photograph

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:04 pm
by MikeKozlowski
FWIW, I've noticed that in very early photos, the women have their hair firmly secured but the men very often appear to have stuck their heads in a supersonic wind tunnel.

Mike

Re: About an old photograph

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:04 pm
by Micael
MikeKozlowski wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:04 pm FWIW, I've noticed that in very early photos, the women have their hair firmly secured but the men very often appear to have stuck their heads in a supersonic wind tunnel.

Mike
A trend then, interesting.

Re: About an old photograph

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:09 am
by Johnnie Lyle
Micael wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:04 pm
MikeKozlowski wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 12:04 pm FWIW, I've noticed that in very early photos, the women have their hair firmly secured but the men very often appear to have stuck their heads in a supersonic wind tunnel.

Mike
A trend then, interesting.
Or it’s hat hair writ large.

Re: About an old photograph

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:04 am
by Craiglxviii
Long(er) hair for men was definitely a thing, across much of the Victorian era. Along with luxuriant sideburns and moustaches.

Re: About an old photograph

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:10 pm
by Belushi TD
Have you seen the daguerreotypes of the US antebellum era?

Its like the males of that era decided that they were going to enter a competition to determine who could grow the most outrageous facial hair. The photos from that time almost invariably rival the winners of the "World Beard Growing Competition".

https://www.worldbeardchampionships.com/

Belushi TD

Re: About an old photograph

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:50 pm
by Micael
Belushi TD wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:10 pm Have you seen the daguerreotypes of the US antebellum era?

Its like the males of that era decided that they were going to enter a competition to determine who could grow the most outrageous facial hair. The photos from that time almost invariably rival the winners of the "World Beard Growing Competition".

https://www.worldbeardchampionships.com/

Belushi TD
Yes, but then I do believe that there were a lot of intentional shaping with vax and such in those cases. So not necessarily as close to the style as in the initial photograph. One of my favorite tidbits of the time is that there was a sort of mustache ”pyjamas” that many wore over it at night to not damage the styling over night.