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Razzle, dazzle, foil and frazzle...
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:20 pm
by Nik_SpeakerToCats
Many WW_1 ships were painted with 'Dazzle' cammo patterns to foil surface raiders and U-Boot attacks.
Seems no-one documented their experiments. Or, if they did, reports were lost to time...
So, now that Ukraine has revived the concept to baffle eg Iranian drones, I give you...
World War One dazzle camouflage was not as well understood as it might have been, researchers suggest
https://phys.org/news/2024-12-world-war ... stood.html
Links back to...
More information: P. George Lovell et al, Dazzle camouflage: benefits and problems revealed, Royal Society Open Science (2024). DOI: 10.1098/rsos.240624
https://dx.doi.org/10.1098/rsos.240624
Re: Razzle, dazzle, foil and frazzle...
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 11:41 pm
by kdahm
Also tied up in the differences between coincident and stereoscopic rangefinders.....
Re: Razzle, dazzle, foil and frazzle...
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:15 am
by M.Becker
kdahm wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 11:41 pm
Also tied up in the differences between coincident and stereoscopic rangefinders.....
That dazzle camo worked with British rangefinders but with the German ones?
Re: Razzle, dazzle, foil and frazzle...
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:23 pm
by Nik_SpeakerToCats
Tangential: One of my father's friends had the handy knack of spotting cammo-netted equipment 'in the field'.
He'd reliably call fire on anti-tank guns 'safely' dug in behind eg Normandy hedges.
IIRC, he had odd-coloured eyes.
A chimera, like WIRS' Tim, his L/R eyes saw slightly different colour spectra...
Re: Razzle, dazzle, foil and frazzle...
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 1:58 pm
by Micael
Nik_SpeakerToCats wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 12:23 pm
Tangential: One of my father's friends had the handy knack of spotting cammo-netted equipment 'in the field'.
He'd reliably call fire on anti-tank guns 'safely' dug in behind eg Normandy hedges.
IIRC, he had odd-coloured eyes.
A chimera, like WIRS' Tim, his L/R eyes saw slightly different colour spectra...
Some of the variants of color blindness works well for spotting camoflaged targets.
Re: Razzle, dazzle, foil and frazzle...
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 8:05 pm
by Craiglxviii
M.Becker wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:15 am
kdahm wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 11:41 pm
Also tied up in the differences between coincident and stereoscopic rangefinders.....
That dazzle camo worked with British rangefinders but with the German ones?
Correct. It would work in making ranging hard for coincidence rangefinders, but stadimetric ones weren’t spoofed by it.
Dazzle did however make it difficult to establish course and estimate speed initially.