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kdahm wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2024 4:03 pm

jemhouston wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2024 2:06 pm California officials reject more SpaceX rocket launches, with some citing Musk's X posts

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ca ... r-AA1s6Zsb

Given some of the reasoning, the commission needs whammed upside the head.

Among the issues raised by some commission members were Musk's decision to insert himself in the presidential race, his spreading of conspiracy theories the labor record of his companies, and derogatory comments he's made about the transgender community.

"We're dealing with a company, the head of which has aggressively injected himself into the presidential race," said Commissioner Chair Caryl Hart.

Well, they're just looking for SpaceX First Amendment lawsuit that has a very good chance of winning. In NRA of America v. Vullo (22-842), the Supreme Court said specifically that the use of coercion by public officials to punish entities for their advocacy was unacceptable. Remarkably, the vote was 9-0and the opinion by Sotomayor. Edit- Actually, the precedent should be Bantam Books vs Sullivan (372 US 58) from 1963 that is directly applicable.

While this one is slightly different, the commission is acting according to the company founder's words unrelated to SpaceX, without even a figleaf of saying that there are problems with the application.

Poohbah wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2024 10:09 pm
Disney was arguing that they had a fundamental right to establish a feudal fiefdom in Florida, and the courts all said, "Nobody does."

brovane wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:56 am

Poohbah wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2024 10:09 pm
Disney was arguing that they had a fundamental right to establish a feudal fiefdom in Florida, and the courts all said, "Nobody does."

The feudal fiefdom was already established and had been for decades and the Florida government signed off on all of it.

Poohbah wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:06 am

brovane wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:56 am

Poohbah wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2024 10:09 pm
Disney was arguing that they had a fundamental right to establish a feudal fiefdom in Florida, and the courts all said, "Nobody does."

The feudal fiefdom was already established and had been for decades and the Florida government signed off on all of it.

Yes, and Disney argued that they had an absolute right to special treatment under the law into perpetuity, and the courts told them to kick rocks.

brovane wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:43 am

Poohbah wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:06 am

brovane wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:56 am

The feudal fiefdom was already established and had been for decades and the Florida government signed off on all of it.

Yes, and Disney argued that they had an absolute right to special treatment under the law into perpetuity, and the courts told them to kick rocks.

Kind of funny that the state only decided to change things after Disney expressed a political opinion that the state didn't like.

Poohbah wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 2:17 am

brovane wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:43 am

Poohbah wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:06 am

Yes, and Disney argued that they had an absolute right to special treatment under the law into perpetuity, and the courts told them to kick rocks.

Kind of funny that the state only decided to change things after Disney expressed a political opinion that the state didn't like.

True, but utterly irrelevant. RCID was a huge pile of special privileges granted to Walt Disney Corporation, and nobody else. Those privileges could be revoked at the discretion of the state Legislature and the Governor (or, if they pissed off enough of both houses, at the discretion of the Legislature alone). They could do it if Disney publicly dissed the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or Anita Freaking Bryant.

But there's a bright side to this, and a moral. I think morals are good for you, I love morals, and the moral of this story is: If you're walkin' on eggs, don't hop.

Nathan45 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2024 10:46 pm Honestly, I'm getting excited about Mars. I was born too late for Apollo, but the possibility of being on Mars in my lifespan is looking very likely. Good thing to be optimistic for.

brovane wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2024 1:19 am The level of accuracy(control authority) shown by SpaceX in landing the Super Heavy is incredible.

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1845966756579627167

kdahm wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2024 2:35 am

brovane wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2024 1:19 am The level of accuracy(control authority) shown by SpaceX in landing the Super Heavy is incredible.

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1845966756579627167

And of course, no one has considered that centimeter accuracy can't be devoted to re-entry vehicles, greatly reducing the CEP. No cans of instant Sunshine needed, just a few tens of tons of ordinary stuff.

Of course, if a country can put a conventional object into a 2m circle from halfway around the world, a can of Instant Sunshine makes everything better.

Micael wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2024 3:30 am Raptor engine #314 ”Pi Raptor” has a special marking.

NEWS: NASA will use @SpaceX Crew Dragon for its two crew rotation missions to the International Space Station in 2025.

NASA had hoped Boeing Starliner would be certified in time to fly but continues to evaluate if it will require another test flight after recent fail.

"SpaceX had to do a study to see if Starship would hit a shark. I'm like "It's a big ocean, there's a lot of sharks. It's not impossible, but it's very unlikely." OK fine, we'll do it, but we need the data, can you give us the Shark data?

They said no.

They said they could give the data to their Western division but they don't trust them.

We're like, 'Is this a comedy?' Eventually we got the data, and the sharks were going to be fine.

We thought we were done.

But then they hit us with: 'Well, what about whales?"

When you look at the Pacific, how many whales do you see? Honestly, if we did hit a whale, the whale had it coming, because the odds are so low. It's like Final Destination: whale edition.

So then we had to do the WHALE analysis.

It goes on and on.

They said, what if the rocket goes underwater and explodes and the whales get hearing damage?

Umm, If we could make a rocket go underwater and become a submarine, that would be a feat of physics that we could not accomplish.

It's just one crazy thing after another.

So yes, I really feel the pain of Government overregulation."

"I will tell the story of how SpaceX was forced by the government to kidnap seals, put earphones on them and play sonic boom sounds to see if they seemed upset"

Rocket J Squrriel wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:02 am In a speech Musk told a story about the the tests the government made SpaceX about the safety of Starship if they launch from Vandenberg...

https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1847808836234797418

"SpaceX had to do a study to see if Starship would hit a shark. I'm like "It's a big ocean, there's a lot of sharks. It's not impossible, but it's very unlikely." OK fine, we'll do it, but we need the data, can you give us the Shark data?

They said no.

They said they could give the data to their Western division but they don't trust them.

We're like, 'Is this a comedy?' Eventually we got the data, and the sharks were going to be fine.

We thought we were done.

But then they hit us with: 'Well, what about whales?"

When you look at the Pacific, how many whales do you see? Honestly, if we did hit a whale, the whale had it coming, because the odds are so low. It's like Final Destination: whale edition.

So then we had to do the WHALE analysis.

It goes on and on.

They said, what if the rocket goes underwater and explodes and the whales get hearing damage?

Umm, If we could make a rocket go underwater and become a submarine, that would be a feat of physics that we could not accomplish.

It's just one crazy thing after another.

So yes, I really feel the pain of Government overregulation."

He also has a story about....

"I will tell the story of how SpaceX was forced by the government to kidnap seals, put earphones on them and play sonic boom sounds to see if they seemed upset"

There is a picture out there now that may or may not real but its so absurd that its believable.