Re: General Discussion Thread
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 3:59 am
Less threatening than rolling up with a railroad tracks, two oak leaves, an eagle and three white stars on the nose.
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Less threatening than rolling up with a railroad tracks, two oak leaves, an eagle and three white stars on the nose.
Apparently, the Squadron CC had disagreements with the new mobile missile doctrine, and addressed those disagreements in a stunningly elegant manner: he simply ignored doctrine and did what he wanted to do.
Or, in other words, he was a predictable American, insofar as he's either never read the doctrine, and if he has, he feels no obligation to follow it.
Except what he wanted to do was the doctrine that had been demonstrated to not work.clancyphile wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:44 amOr, in other words, he was a predictable American, insofar as he's either never read the doctrine, and if he has, he feels no obligation to follow it.
Which has wreaked much havoc on American enemies.
At least he did the stupid in peacetime and thus no letters had to be written.Poohbah wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:02 amExcept what he wanted to do was the doctrine that had been demonstrated to not work.clancyphile wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:44 amOr, in other words, he was a predictable American, insofar as he's either never read the doctrine, and if he has, he feels no obligation to follow it.
Which has wreaked much havoc on American enemies.
We spent a largish chunk of money on fixing some of the deficiencies of missile convoy security. He had his crews leave all that hardware in the garage. The result was that they were wandering around northeastern Nevada with absolutely no situational awareness, no tools to evade contact with SOF, and no tools to handle being hunted from the air.
CINCSAC Actual is not happy. Apparently, neither is Boss-Ma'am Actual.
But he undermined the deterrence posture of SAC. Deterrence is tricky; it is nothing more than ensuring that the adversary's state of mind is what we wish it to be (specifically, an overwhelming desire to not sample any of the sauce SAC can whip up). There are concrete actions that form part of that mindset; a successful GLORY TRIP from Vandenberg to Kwajelein contributes to that mindset. When a missile convoy evades TACAIR and SOF, or the TACTS says that the attacking F-15E got Marvined, same thing.Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:37 amAt least he did the stupid in peacetime and thus no letters had to be written.Poohbah wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:02 amExcept what he wanted to do was the doctrine that had been demonstrated to not work.clancyphile wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:44 am
Or, in other words, he was a predictable American, insofar as he's either never read the doctrine, and if he has, he feels no obligation to follow it.
Which has wreaked much havoc on American enemies.
We spent a largish chunk of money on fixing some of the deficiencies of missile convoy security. He had his crews leave all that hardware in the garage. The result was that they were wandering around northeastern Nevada with absolutely no situational awareness, no tools to evade contact with SOF, and no tools to handle being hunted from the air.
CINCSAC Actual is not happy. Apparently, neither is Boss-Ma'am Actual.
Yes, but that’s far preferable to a shooting war. You have time to fix things, no equipment lost, no letters to write home, no enemy feeling frisky and full of themselves, and reinforcement of why not to do that.Poohbah wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:59 amBut he undermined the deterrence posture of SAC. Deterrence is tricky; it is nothing more than ensuring that the adversary's state of mind is what we wish it to be (specifically, an overwhelming desire to not sample any of the sauce SAC can whip up). There are concrete actions that form part of that mindset; a successful GLORY TRIP from Vandenberg to Kwajelein contributes to that mindset. When a missile convoy evades TACAIR and SOF, or the TACTS says that the attacking F-15E got Marvined, same thing.Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:37 amAt least he did the stupid in peacetime and thus no letters had to be written.Poohbah wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:02 am
Except what he wanted to do was the doctrine that had been demonstrated to not work.
We spent a largish chunk of money on fixing some of the deficiencies of missile convoy security. He had his crews leave all that hardware in the garage. The result was that they were wandering around northeastern Nevada with absolutely no situational awareness, no tools to evade contact with SOF, and no tools to handle being hunted from the air.
CINCSAC Actual is not happy. Apparently, neither is Boss-Ma'am Actual.
When a missile test ends in a range safety abort, or a convoy is fat, drunk, and stupid? It detracts from the desired mindset. And everyone has to work harder to get things back to where we want them.
About twenty years ago, I was at an antique store in Kingsville, TX. I saw a bunch of stuff I grew up with in it. Point of reference my hometown had party lines until 1968.
To the first: copious amounts of ass-kissing; to the second: not a clue.jemhouston wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:40 pm How in the heck did they get this far? Not to mention how they can breath and walk at the same time?