General Discussion Thread

[Wolfman]

The SS-18 could carry as many as 14 RVs. It could be that they overloaded the Whiteman birds and then forgot to load the 14 RV program into the flight computer. The Whiteman strike was a fiasco, and everyone involved probably creatively rewrote the records to send some other poor dumb bastards to Gulag instead of themselves...

And then they got shot when that duplicity was discovered…

And the guys who shot them got shot for having been deceived in the first place...

No, the guys who ordered the first bunch shot are the ones who got shot in turn, and the same guys did the shooting.

[Matt Wiser]

You all might want to wish Kelly Ray congratulations: she is the new President of Cuba-POWs: it's the advocacy group for former POWs held on the island from 1985-90. Anyone held there-military or civilian, is eligible for membership. One thing she did as President of the Idaho Chapter was push very early on for the POW kids to be eligible to join as well. Not their fault or their Moms' about the circumstances of where they were born.

As for the SS-18 warheads in Missouri: sixteen targets (15 LCCs plus Whiteman itself). That's three missiles' worth, and only a dozen total have been found as of now. The warhead count should be 48, assuming three RVs per target.

[Belushi TD]

You all might want to wish Kelly Ray congratulations: she is the new President of Cuba-POWs: it's the advocacy group for former POWs held on the island from 1985-90. Anyone held there-military or civilian, is eligible for membership. One thing she did as President of the Idaho Chapter was push very early on for the POW kids to be eligible to join as well. Not their fault or their Moms' about the circumstances of where they were born.

As for the SS-18 warheads in Missouri: sixteen targets (15 LCCs plus Whiteman itself). That's three missiles' worth, and only a dozen total have been found as of now. The warhead count should be 48, assuming three RVs per target.

This, of course, assumes that the missiles in question actually worked properly, and didn't suffer some kind of failure during any part. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it possible that the missile broke up early in its flight, and could concievably have scattered warheads anywhere along its projected flight path? Or do we have some kind of tracking data from NORAD?

Belushi TD

[Johnnie Lyle]

The SS-18 could carry as many as 14 RVs. It could be that they overloaded the Whiteman birds and then forgot to load the 14 RV program into the flight computer. The Whiteman strike was a fiasco, and everyone involved probably creatively rewrote the records to send some other poor dumb bastards to Gulag instead of themselves...

And then they got shot when that duplicity was discovered…

And the guys who shot them got shot for having been deceived in the first place...

Just shoot all of them. Lenin knows his own.

[jemhouston]

Then you'll have to shoot all the KGB officers controlling the warheads. Business before pleasure.

[Wolfman]

Then you'll have to shoot all the KGB officers controlling the warheads. Business before pleasure.

But of course!

[Poohbah]

Then you'll have to shoot all the KGB officers controlling the warheads. Business before pleasure.

But of course!

Last guy standing would be required to shoot himself.

[Wolfman]

Then you'll have to shoot all the KGB officers controlling the warheads. Business before pleasure.

But of course!

Last guy standing would be required to shoot himself.

No, he just drops the gun and walks away.

[Matt Wiser]

You all might want to wish Kelly Ray congratulations: she is the new President of Cuba-POWs: it's the advocacy group for former POWs held on the island from 1985-90. Anyone held there-military or civilian, is eligible for membership. One thing she did as President of the Idaho Chapter was push very early on for the POW kids to be eligible to join as well. Not their fault or their Moms' about the circumstances of where they were born.

As for the SS-18 warheads in Missouri: sixteen targets (15 LCCs plus Whiteman itself). That's three missiles' worth, and only a dozen total have been found as of now. The warhead count should be 48, assuming three RVs per target.

This, of course, assumes that the missiles in question actually worked properly, and didn't suffer some kind of failure during any part. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it possible that the missile broke up early in its flight, and could concievably have scattered warheads anywhere along its projected flight path? Or do we have some kind of tracking data from NORAD?

Belushi TD

From my AWC notes, the missiles were coming in nominally: BMEWS (which was not attacked on Day One) tracked the missiles and this shot was coming in nominally. Everything worked except for one thing: no warhead initiations. And the Soviet strike plan didn't allow for restrikes.

[Johnnie Lyle]

But of course!

Last guy standing would be required to shoot himself.

No, he just drops the gun and walks away.

That just gets him shot in the ass.

[Wolfman]

Last guy standing would be required to shoot himself.

No, he just drops the gun and walks away.

That just gets him shot in the ass.

[jemhouston]

Poohbah

Has Boss-Ma'am had a discussion with The Firm over their hiring practices? They seem to attract people with issues.

[Poohbah]

Poohbah

Has Boss-Ma'am had a discussion with The Firm over their hiring practices? They seem to attract people with issues.

If she has, she ain't talking about it.

[jemhouston]

Poohbah

Has Boss-Ma'am had a discussion with The Firm over their hiring practices? They seem to attract people with issues.

If she has, she ain't talking about it.

Is the building still standing?

[Wolfman]

Poohbah

Has Boss-Ma'am had a discussion with The Firm over their hiring practices? They seem to attract people with issues.

If she has, she ain't talking about it.

Is the building still standing?

Last I heard, it was.

[Poohbah]

Well, Roberta's editor is satisfied with the last round of changes to the manuscript, and her book is being passed to art & layout to integrate the text and pictures together so that the book flows well. It's going to be an oversized format, essentially a coffee table book.

It's fascinating; she looks at Wright's work solely from the perspective of an American professional architect, explaining what got built, how it got built, why it got built...and the explaining why some of us greatest works didn't get built.

And she does all this while keeping it at a level where an interested layman can follow along.

She somehow managed to keep it away from Wright the Man and kept her focus on Wright the Architect, which has previously been impossible because Wright the Man is a larger-than-life character of immense gifts...and foibles...who just sucks the air out of the room.

It's tentatively scheduled for publication in October 2024.

[Wolfman]

Congrats, Poohbah.

[Wolfman]

Poorly designed or not, enough of them initiated on Invasion Day over LCCs.

Is it wrong that I'm curious as to whether any kids found one for show-and-tell, as was the case with a San Diego-area school whose staff got on a first-name basis with local EOD teams?

ISTR that it was a school in I think it was Kentucky?

[jemhouston]

Poorly designed or not, enough of them initiated on Invasion Day over LCCs.

Is it wrong that I'm curious as to whether any kids found one for show-and-tell, as was the case with a San Diego-area school whose staff got on a first-name basis with local EOD teams?

ISTR that it was a school in I think it was Kentucky?

In fairness, two cousins who are teachers in Iowa do know the numbers of EOD direct line.

[Poohbah]

Poorly designed or not, enough of them initiated on Invasion Day over LCCs.

Is it wrong that I'm curious as to whether any kids found one for show-and-tell, as was the case with a San Diego-area school whose staff got on a first-name basis with local EOD teams?

ISTR that it was a school in I think it was Kentucky?

The Tierrasanta neighborhood in San Diego was built on top of the impact area for Camp Elliott, which was a Marine Corps training facility, and the developers got Congress to force the Navy to release the land for development despite everyone knowing that there was UXO all over the damn place (word is one of the surveyor crews from the City of San Diego found a 105mm she'll the hard way in 1963).

All through the 1970s and 1980s, kids were finding UXO. A couple kids died in 1983 when a piece of UXO suddenly turned into XO.

A reunion of the original faculty and staff of Tierrasanta Elementary School ended up including the Team OIC and senior CPO from the Navy's San Diego EOD unit...