Order of Battle Allied Forces Central Region (ground)
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Yup, logistics.
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Maybe not currently, but a number of NATO armies were doing it during the 1980s.Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 6:08 pmProbably for the same reasons we don’t have many mixed battalions in other armies in peacetime - savings on the logistical, maintenance and training sides.James1978 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:59 pmAny particular reason the mixed battalions went away in TLWverse? Every @1989 ORBAT I've seen has them.Bernard Woolley wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 2:30 am No, there are no mixed battalions in peacetime. Panzer battalions have 44 Leopard 2s, Panzergrenadier battalions have 44 Marder 2s.
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And it’s not unreasonable they would have gone back to pure battalions to save money, even if it makes combat integration more difficult.James1978 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 6:24 pmMaybe not currently, but a number of NATO armies were doing it during the 1980s.Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 6:08 pmProbably for the same reasons we don’t have many mixed battalions in other armies in peacetime - savings on the logistical, maintenance and training sides.
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There are enough crises around the TLW world that there are going to be quite a lot of immigrants who can he drafted as soon as they are citizens.
I think that‘s enough handwavium

Seriously, the topic is too complex to deal with in a few posts.
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Nope. Citizenship means service.
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Wasn't there a Infantry man assigned to a Cuirassiers regiment granted that a French Armored Squadron has access to protection platoon mounted in VAB.
French mechanized infantry formation of 1989 had access to a armored company.
French mechanized infantry formation of 1989 had access to a armored company.
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Well, that's the French Army . . .Eaglenine2 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:57 pm Wasn't there a Infantry man assigned to a Cuirassiers regiment granted that a French Armored Squadron has access to protection platoon mounted in VAB.
French mechanized infantry formation of 1989 had access to a armored company.
But yes, French armored battalions have three tank and one mech infantry company. Mech infantry battalions are three mech infantry and one tank company.
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The French just like being French.
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Have added the TerritorialHeer and CINCENT Reserve.
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You chose the Marder 2 in its 50mm gun configuration as the Jaguar 2 replacement? Interesting, I like it. Do the pure AT Marders have an additional missile load instead of the squad of Panzergrenadiers in the back?Bernard Woolley wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:33 pm Have added the TerritorialHeer and CINCENT Reserve.
How many Karakal vehicles are in service?
Oh, and did you get my single comment on the Territorial Commands‘ role as a corps HQ?
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Question what is the war time mission of Centre d'entraînement commando?
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Was just something that came to me. Use the 50mm version and add TOW-2 from surplus Jaguar 2s. In the long-term, TOW would be replaced by Spike-ER. Yes, they would have additional missiles in the back.
Haven’t really thought about the Karakal.
I did. Good suggestion.
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Regarding the Karakal, maybe a few companies' worth in the AA regiments of the first-line divisions? Like, one or two max per regiment? AFAIR, we worked out that Karakal was in the process of being introduced…Bernard Woolley wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:43 amWas just something that came to me. Use the 50mm version and add TOW-2 from surplus Jaguar 2s. In the long-term, TOW would be replaced by Spike-ER. Yes, they would have additional missiles in the back.
Haven’t really thought about the Karakal.
I did. Good suggestion.
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Would make sense.
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Where's 4th ID? Shouldn't they be part of V Corps?
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EDIT: Fixed.
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Another thing that (finally) got my attention:
Frontnachrichtenkompanie is not a Front News Company but rather a Front Intelligence Company (HUMINT). Their job was to gain fresh intelligence from new POWs, especially from vital branches of the WP armies and of course officers, the higher ranking the better. They were hunting for information about dislocation of troops, the logistics situation, morale etc.
Thr means of gathering intelligence were solely by interviewing and applied communication psychology.
"Nachrichten" has two meanings. One is simply "news“, the other is "intelligence". The German word for intelligence service is "Nachrichtendienst", for example, as best evidenced by the long title of the BND, Bundesnachrichtendienst.
Frontnachrichtenkompanie is not a Front News Company but rather a Front Intelligence Company (HUMINT). Their job was to gain fresh intelligence from new POWs, especially from vital branches of the WP armies and of course officers, the higher ranking the better. They were hunting for information about dislocation of troops, the logistics situation, morale etc.
Thr means of gathering intelligence were solely by interviewing and applied communication psychology.
"Nachrichten" has two meanings. One is simply "news“, the other is "intelligence". The German word for intelligence service is "Nachrichtendienst", for example, as best evidenced by the long title of the BND, Bundesnachrichtendienst.