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Belushi TD wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 12:45 am

Poohbah wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:49 am The Marines used the Knight's Armament Company Masterkey--it was a cut-down M870 that could be fitted under the barrel of an M16. Useful for breaching, but it could be a tad clumsy at times. Usually loaded with frangible breaching rounds. We first got the things in late 1986, and they made CQB go a lot quicker.

And then some lunatic invented Dragon's Breath rounds...if there's a better way to get the enemy out of a room than lighting the entire damn place on fire, I don't know what it is.

I would submit a 9 gun salvo from an Iowa class as a better way.

With one radio call, you not only get the enemy out of the room they're in, you also get them out of the next room, and the next room, and the next building, and, in fact, the entire block.

Admittedly, from your wartime service, you were a little far from the coast to be able to benefit from that.

Belushi TD

Belushi TD wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 12:45 am

I would submit a 9 gun salvo from an Iowa class as a better way.

With one radio call, you not only get the enemy out of the room they're in, you also get them out of the next room, and the next room, and the next building, and, in fact, the entire block.

Admittedly, from your wartime service, you were a little far from the coast to be able to benefit from that.

Belushi TD

Wolfman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:14 am Thermonuclear weapons require the assent of the National Command Authority…

Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 2:12 am

Wolfman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:14 am Thermonuclear weapons require the assent of the National Command Authority…

Again, overkill. I just want the death without all the fuss and bother of ruining potentially useful stuff.

Wolfman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 3:52 am

Johnnie Lyle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 2:12 am

Wolfman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:14 am Thermonuclear weapons require the assent of the National Command Authority…

Again, overkill. I just want the death without all the fuss and bother of ruining potentially useful stuff.

A neutron bomb is a low yield thermonuclear weapon, ergo, it requires the assent of the NCA to use…

Poohbah wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:49 am The Marines used the Knight's Armament Company Masterkey--it was a cut-down M870 that could be fitted under the barrel of an M16. Useful for breaching, but it could be a tad clumsy at times. Usually loaded with frangible breaching rounds. We first got the things in late 1986, and they made CQB go a lot quicker.

And then some lunatic invented Dragon's Breath rounds...if there's a better way to get the enemy out of a room than lighting the entire damn place on fire, I don't know what it is.

clancyphile wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:44 pm

Poohbah wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:49 am The Marines used the Knight's Armament Company Masterkey--it was a cut-down M870 that could be fitted under the barrel of an M16. Useful for breaching, but it could be a tad clumsy at times. Usually loaded with frangible breaching rounds. We first got the things in late 1986, and they made CQB go a lot quicker.

And then some lunatic invented Dragon's Breath rounds...if there's a better way to get the enemy out of a room than lighting the entire damn place on fire, I don't know what it is.

Interesting implications for fire-team construction.
1 M249
1 M16 w/Masterkey
1 M16
1 M16 w/M203

Poohbah wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:49 am And then some lunatic invented Dragon's Breath rounds...if there's a better way to get the enemy out of a room than lighting the entire damn place on fire, I don't know what it is.

TheMann wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:19 am

Poohbah wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:49 am And then some lunatic invented Dragon's Breath rounds...if there's a better way to get the enemy out of a room than lighting the entire damn place on fire, I don't know what it is.

I say Dragon's Breath being used by a resistance guy from a Remington 1100 once during my longer E&E....once was enough. The shooter caught actually caught a KGB fuckwit with most of a load of one....I can still smell the result the best part of forty years later. Burnt chekist doesn't smell too nice, trust me.

Poohbah wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 6:06 am

TheMann wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:19 am

Poohbah wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:49 am And then some lunatic invented Dragon's Breath rounds...if there's a better way to get the enemy out of a room than lighting the entire damn place on fire, I don't know what it is.

I say Dragon's Breath being used by a resistance guy from a Remington 1100 once during my longer E&E....once was enough. The shooter caught actually caught a KGB fuckwit with most of a load of one....I can still smell the result the best part of forty years later. Burnt chekist doesn't smell too nice, trust me.

BMP-1 had a fuel tank in the rear hatch. An M72 or an AT4 would blow clean through the armor, the fuel tank, and inject burning diesel into the troop compartment.

We called it grunt in a can, heat and serve.

TheMann wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 6:50 am

Poohbah wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 6:06 am

TheMann wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:19 am

I say Dragon's Breath being used by a resistance guy from a Remington 1100 once during my longer E&E....once was enough. The shooter caught actually caught a KGB fuckwit with most of a load of one....I can still smell the result the best part of forty years later. Burnt chekist doesn't smell too nice, trust me.

BMP-1 had a fuel tank in the rear hatch. An M72 or an AT4 would blow clean through the armor, the fuel tank, and inject burning diesel into the troop compartment.

We called it grunt in a can, heat and serve.

Grunt in a can, nice. I knew the BMP-1 was a deathtrap, but a fuel tank in the rear hatch? It's not like we didn't all know their APCs were complete shit (got a BTR-60 myself on that same E&E, courtesy of a M79 with an HEDP round - shot it right through the commander's window in the front) but bloody hell, that's a bit of an oversight, isn't it?

jemhouston wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 11:29 am The Russian motto, "We have reserves." Until they don't.