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Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:16 am
by Wolfman
Does the F-5N upgrade program happen ITTL?
Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:29 am
by Matt Wiser
It might, for those who can't afford F-20s.
Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:25 pm
by Wolfman
Here’s an example of the F-5N belonging to VMFT-401 Snipers.
Hopefully this site doesn’t flip the thumbnail inverted…
Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 2:55 am
by jemhouston
It's been mentioned that various hurricanes / tropical storms hit the US during the war.
https://historyplex.com/1980s-timeline-important-events
Most of the political stuff can be butterflied away. The natural disasters can't.
In 1985:
A shocking total of 25,000 people died due to a volcanic eruption in Columbia.
10,000 lives were lost due to a cyclone in Bangladesh.
Mexico City was struck by an earthquake of 8.1 magnitude on the Richter scale, leaving more than 9,000 dead.
The US wouldn't be able to supply help. I wonder how else the disasters would effect the war.
Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 11:08 pm
by Rocket J Squrriel
jemhouston wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 2:55 am
It's been mentioned that various hurricanes / tropical storms hit the US during the war.
https://historyplex.com/1980s-timeline-important-events
Most of the political stuff can be butterflied away. The natural disasters can't.
In 1985:
A shocking total of 25,000 people died due to a volcanic eruption in Columbia.
10,000 lives were lost due to a cyclone in Bangladesh.
Mexico City was struck by an earthquake of 8.1 magnitude on the Richter scale, leaving more than 9,000 dead.
The US wouldn't be able to supply help. I wonder how else the disasters would effect the war.
Just looking at the damage In Mexico City that might do a number on their military capability for a bit. At least in the C&C since the communications in the city to the outside was cut. Then the public reaction at how terrible the government response would be since they are fighting a war at the same time.
Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 11:33 pm
by jemhouston
They'd probably have to move at least two divisions back for search / rescue / recovery. I'm not sure what the quake would do to the Mexican oil industry. The Soviets were depended on Mexican oil for the war. It was also primary target for US forces.
Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 4:58 am
by Matt Wiser
Two divisions at least.. And you might even see Soviet and Cuban forces helping with disaster relief. "Revolutionary Solidarity" and all that.
Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:33 pm
by Wolfman
Would Brazil be interested in the Crusader II?
Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 4:16 am
by Matt Wiser
Maybe; depends on how much they can afford.
Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 11:59 am
by Wolfman
I’m going with they’re interested, but they haven’t actually made an order yet. Lockheed’s marketing department has done concept art for the F-24A and F-24B versions in Brazilian markings.
Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:06 am
by brianwdaugherty
I have a question for the board: does anyone know of the best place to find Cold War-era civil defense documents for each state (in my case, Kentucky)?
Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 6:44 pm
by Wolfman
Hey, Matt, what do you think of the Marinha do Brasil having flown the F/A-18C/D as their operational fighter since 2014?
Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 8:33 pm
by James1978
Would somebody refresh my memory as to what carrier Brazil is operating?
Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:19 pm
by Wolfman
Last it was discussed, the Sao Paulo (ex-Foch)…
Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 5:04 am
by Matt Wiser
IOTL the French Navy did evaluate the C model Hornet, and wanted to buy it as their F-8 replacement, but the French Parliament (via the Deputies that Dassault bought and paid for) insisted on Rafale. Which meant they had to keep the Crusaders in service far longer than they expected. And word in several aviation magazines in the '90s was that the Aeronavale was less than pleased with the delays.
Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 6:03 am
by Poohbah
Matt Wiser wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 5:04 am
IOTL the French Navy did evaluate the C model Hornet, and wanted to buy it as their F-8 replacement, but the French Parliament (via the Deputies that Dassault bought and paid for) insisted on Rafale. Which meant they had to keep the Crusaders in service far longer than they expected. And word in several aviation magazines in the '90s was that the Aeronavale was less than pleased with the delays.
A bird in hand beats two in RDT&E.
Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:37 am
by Matt Wiser
Quite.
As for Brazil? Their flying Hornets off the carrier would be no problem.
Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:37 pm
by Wolfman
Matt Wiser wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:37 am
Quite.
As for Brazil? Their flying Hornets off the carrier would be no problem.
I’d made the request about a year ago, and it was done a few days ago. Just yesterday I had thought that they’d fit into RD+20, where the FAB already flies the Hornet, but wanted to avoid stepping on anyone’s toes…
Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:05 pm
by Lordroel
Colorado Insurgency | Red Dawn by the The Templin Institute.
https://youtu.be/TYrleoLU--A
Re: OOC Thread
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:39 pm
by Wolfman
I mentioned that and linked to it on the previous incarnation of the board.