General Discussion Thread

[clancyphile]

I thought that that program had been killed off (cancelled)…

You think... but it gets in from fairy god-Congresscritters. They see the chance for more and bigger Dakka...

[Wolfman]

I thought that that program had been killed off (cancelled)…

You think... but it gets in from fairy god-Congresscritters. They see the chance for more and bigger Dakka...

It’s a stupid program! You don’t turn a strategic airlifter into a freaking gunship!

[jemhouston]

You can if you use Rapid Dragon. This way you stand off.

[Poohbah]

I thought that that program had been killed off (cancelled)…

You think... but it gets in from fairy god-Congresscritters. They see the chance for more and bigger Dakka...

It’s a stupid program! You don’t turn a strategic airlifter into a freaking gunship!

This is America, aka Team Hoc Habeo ("I've Got This").

Our national motto should be "Hold Muh Beer and Y'ALL WATCH THIS!"

[Wolfman]

Yeah, I know…

[Matt Wiser]

That was my impression as well: unless some Congress-critters slipped the AF some money with the proviso that it go to an AC-17 prototype...

[Jotun]

That was my impression as well: unless some Congress-critters slipped the AF some money with the proviso that it go to an AC-17 prototype...

So, instead of a 105mm, it gets a 155mm or two and dozens of missiles?

[clancyphile]

That was my impression as well: unless some Congress-critters slipped the AF some money with the proviso that it go to an AC-17 prototype...

So, instead of a 105mm, it gets a 155mm or two and dozens of missiles?

2 M61s, 2 GAU-8s, a 57mm, and a M777 155mm, plus sixteen AGM-114 Hellfire/AGM-179 JAGM or two dozen AGM-176 Griffin. or eight 500-pound JDAMs, plus the ability to kick a MOAB or MOP out the back door.

[Jotun]

That was my impression as well: unless some Congress-critters slipped the AF some money with the proviso that it go to an AC-17 prototype...

So, instead of a 105mm, it gets a 155mm or two and dozens of missiles?

2 M61s, 2 GAU-8s, a 57mm, and a M777 155mm, plus sixteen AGM-114 Hellfire/AGM-179 JAGM or two dozen AGM-176 Griffin. or eight 500-pound JDAMs, plus the ability to kick a MOAB or MOP out the back door.

Sounds a lot like somebody forgot you guys have B-52s and Bones and shit…
Just because it is technically doable does not make it a good idea.

[Poohbah]

So, instead of a 105mm, it gets a 155mm or two and dozens of missiles?

2 M61s, 2 GAU-8s, a 57mm, and a M777 155mm, plus sixteen AGM-114 Hellfire/AGM-179 JAGM or two dozen AGM-176 Griffin. or eight 500-pound JDAMs, plus the ability to kick a MOAB or MOP out the back door.

Sounds a lot like somebody forgot you guys have B-52s and Bones and shit…
Just because it is technically doable does not make it a good idea.

I do not want to think about the M61/GAU-8 gun gas ingestion issues for the port engines during a pylon turn...

[Jotun]

2 M61s, 2 GAU-8s, a 57mm, and a M777 155mm, plus sixteen AGM-114 Hellfire/AGM-179 JAGM or two dozen AGM-176 Griffin. or eight 500-pound JDAMs, plus the ability to kick a MOAB or MOP out the back door.

Sounds a lot like somebody forgot you guys have B-52s and Bones and shit…
Just because it is technically doable does not make it a good idea.

I do not want to think about the M61/GAU-8 gun gas ingestion issues for the port engines during a pylon turn...

What‘s the use of the M61 and GAU-8 anyway? Not enough range. Better install another 57mm instead. The caliber at least allows for guided/programmable shells.

[Wolfman]

Some freaking Congreresscritter has lost their freaking mind over this…

[Johnnie Lyle]

Some freaking Congreresscritter has lost their freaking mind over this…

So, instead of a 105mm, it gets a 155mm or two and dozens of missiles?

2 M61s, 2 GAU-8s, a 57mm, and a M777 155mm, plus sixteen AGM-114 Hellfire/AGM-179 JAGM or two dozen AGM-176 Griffin. or eight 500-pound JDAMs, plus the ability to kick a MOAB or MOP out the back door.

Sounds a lot like somebody forgot you guys have B-52s and Bones and shit…
Just because it is technically doable does not make it a good idea.

Losing whatever brain cells you allegedly possessed is a prerequisite for election to Congress these days.

[Jotun]

Some freaking Congreresscritter has lost their freaking mind over this…

2 M61s, 2 GAU-8s, a 57mm, and a M777 155mm, plus sixteen AGM-114 Hellfire/AGM-179 JAGM or two dozen AGM-176 Griffin. or eight 500-pound JDAMs, plus the ability to kick a MOAB or MOP out the back door.

Sounds a lot like somebody forgot you guys have B-52s and Bones and shit…
Just because it is technically doable does not make it a good idea.

Losing whatever brain cells you allegedly possessed is a prerequisite for election to Congress these days.

Point.

[Wolfman]

Some freaking Congreresscritter has lost their freaking mind over this…

Sounds a lot like somebody forgot you guys have B-52s and Bones and shit…
Just because it is technically doable does not make it a good idea.

Losing whatever brain cells you allegedly possessed is a prerequisite for election to Congress these days.

Point.

Too true, I’m afraid.

[Matt Wiser]

Or having their common sense surgically removed prior to taking office....it just reinforces my fighter pilot's loathing for politics and politicians. Oh, there's a few good ones around, but they seem to be outnumbered by those who get sprinkled with fairy dust by the Good Idea Fairy.

[Wolfman]

The good ones never stay very long…

[Poohbah]

At my level, I have to testify in front of Congress about complex technical subjects. This is a problem because we have very few STEM majors going into politics; most go through pre-law to law school to running for office. A good chunk of the work done by the legislative affairs shop at HQ USAF is breaking things down Barney-style...

[Wolfman]

At my level, I have to testify in front of Congress about complex technical subjects. This is a problem because we have very few STEM majors going into politics; most go through pre-law to law school to running for office. A good chunk of the work done by the legislative affairs shop at HQ USAF is breaking things down Barney-style...

Considering the paste eating fools currently in office, I hold no hope for any success…

[jemhouston]

At my level, I have to testify in front of Congress about complex technical subjects. This is a problem because we have very few STEM majors going into politics; most go through pre-law to law school to running for office. A good chunk of the work done by the legislative affairs shop at HQ USAF is breaking things down Barney-style...

STEM majors like fixing problems and making systems work better. Politicians like making things more complicated to justify their existence.